I just recently started reading about the final mobo revision that they're calling Valhalla for the 360. Everything that I've read said that it would start showing up in late 2009 or early 2010. So it's early 2010. Has anyone found one or heard any updated info on this console? I would love to take a look at that mobo...

Well in the MW2 boxes the mobos were labeled 'Super Elite' and had some minor changes, I think it was just changing some of the caps to metal. Other than that, nothing yet.

Will probably come with Natal or so, here are some specs:

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08 ... lla.rumor/

What do you guys think about Natal? I think that it will be pretty cool. I saw somewhere that they were integrating it with the original controller for FPS's. Instead of using one of the joysticks for your view, you actually turned your head and it moves the camera. I think that it has a lot of cool possibilities. I was reading that it will only be around $80 US.

Yeah I think that would be pretty cool if you could actually control the view by moving your head around

I didnt hear too much about it yet to be honest but I am pretty sure it will be more than just a wii clone.
Looking forward to it

I can't wait to have a virtual family.
I hope they have torture games